tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post114628170077694137..comments2023-09-30T09:14:50.616-05:00Comments on Sprittibee: Small Victory for the Secret Magazine PoliceSprittibeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07992769339576987845noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1147296236240093462006-05-10T16:23:00.000-05:002006-05-10T16:23:00.000-05:00I can understand that you have your reasons for fe...I can understand that you have your reasons for feeling this way. I'm not wild about the fashion of dressing up in titillating bits of cloth to look attractive or young girls thinking that Barbie or some aneroxic movie star is the kind of ideal to aim for. <BR/><BR/>I just think that it is interesting how different cultures regard nakedness. I grew up in Africa, where breasts were regarded as about as sexual as one's elbows and there was therefore no taboo about them, also among very religious African Christians. I once saw a postcard titled "Sotho (a South African tribe) woman weaving a basket." <BR/>Besides the abovementioned activity, the woman on the postcard was also nursing a rather large toddler, who was holding onto her exposed breast. <BR/><BR/>BTW, it is not necessary to use a shawl or nurse in a public restroom to nurse discreetly. I have often nursed in public without any cover (in England or the USA) without people realising what I was doing. They just thought that I was cradling the baby/toddler in my arms. <BR/><BR/>I might be wrong, but I would say that American modesty was not founded on biblical thought per se but on a certain kind of Christianity - that of the Puritans. <BR/><BR/>I'm pretty modest myself. At a homeschooling camp in Germany last year ours was the only family that used bathing suits to swim in the little lake next to our campsite. I got some really weird looks and comments from some of the other campers there, but that is how I am. There was an elderly pastor and his wife there who also never used bathing suits, but that is how the Germans are. They don't see a nude body as something to get sexually turned on by because they see them all the time. My mother, who is a nursing sister in an old age home, has the same attitude to nude men. She says, "You've seen one, you've seen them all". <BR/><BR/>I really do think that the idea that parents should not be seen naked by their children mystifies the the human body and feeds this idea that we should dress up in titillating clothes, instead of regarding the human body as the natural thing it is. Our sons are not seeing our stretch-marked, lived-in bodies, and grow up with a mental ideal instead of the real thing. The kind of magazine covers which sell women's bodies as vehicles of sexuality did not come from those societies where the nude body is accepted as normal and healthy. They originated in Western civilisation and the sad thing is that these perverted portrayals of women are spreading to to non-Western societies.Rinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09619473098124504880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1147277684384433152006-05-10T11:14:00.000-05:002006-05-10T11:14:00.000-05:00scatty, Well, in a biblical society we are called ...scatty, <BR/><BR/>Well, in a biblical society we are called to purity. I hardly would call today's America biblical, but our foundations are based upon a people almost entirely governed by biblical thought. It is hard to remain pure in thought (if you are a man) when you are surrounded by images of naked women. Even for girls, it is hard to remain pure... because when you are young, you think that you must look like the slutty super-models or rock stars that gloss the cover of magazines if you, too are going to grow up and attract a man. It is the wrong kind of image, and attracts the wrong kind of man. I don't like looking at naked men, either. The body is made in the image of God and He desires us to be in a sacred and holy union with either ONLY Him or ONLY our spouse. God requires us through scripture to be faithful and pure. Purity is keeping yourself from thoughts that might lead you to sin or cheat. <BR/><BR/>Other books that you might check out on this topic are:<BR/><BR/>Sex and the Supremacy of Christ<BR/><BR/>or<BR/><BR/>Christian Modesty and the Public Undressing of America<BR/><BR/>As for breastfeeding, there are a lot of women who breastfeed in today's society. They just use shawls or go to the restroom to do so. Some women's restrooms are not set up well for this, I admit... and as a breastfeeding mother, I completely sympathize. I often went to my car and sat in comfort (at the time we had a minivan with a nice long back seat I could recline on) rather than sit on a hard, cold toilet seat. Other times, I used a shawl or simply sat in another room. Breastfeeding is a private matter for me, and I don't much like watching other people do it... but hey - I'm not going to get upset if I see someone in a restaurant doing it. I'd just rather not see their boob (and neither would my husband). My husband will get up and leave a room if even his cousin is breastfeeding.Sprittibeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992769339576987845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1147209319737092232006-05-09T16:15:00.000-05:002006-05-09T16:15:00.000-05:00As a non-American I'm just curious. Is it the nake...As a non-American I'm just curious. Is it the nakedness that is the issue here, or just the way that womens' bodies (and mens'too, for that matter,)are portrayed?<BR/><BR/>It was a huge cultural shock for me when we lived for a year in the USA to get used to the way nakedness (even within the family) is taboo in the USA. In Germany, for instance, public breastfeeding or learning to nurse discreetly is not an issue and there are no changing facilities at public lakes.Rinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09619473098124504880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1146500055313518962006-05-01T11:14:00.000-05:002006-05-01T11:14:00.000-05:00Thanks for your comment Isaac. It is nice to know...Thanks for your comment Isaac. It is nice to know that men also feel the same way. I know my husband gets disgusted at all the trash shoved at him. I have always wondered if he was unique in this aspect. I have met plenty of men in my life who are morally bankrupt, so it is such a blessing to meet men who are taking a stand for the Lord.Sprittibeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992769339576987845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1146460810226528742006-05-01T00:20:00.000-05:002006-05-01T00:20:00.000-05:00I agree totally. It's hard to teach children resp...I agree totally. It's hard to teach children respect for women when they can turn the TV on or look at a magazine cover and see women disrespecting themselves. I pray that more people can step up and say no to the way that women are being portrayed in magazines. It's horrible for humanity as a whole; for men and women. God bless,<BR/>IsaacIsaac Garciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06279512341413462998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1146433935029431312006-04-30T16:52:00.000-05:002006-04-30T16:52:00.000-05:00Thanks for the comment Heather. Yes, the sights t...Thanks for the comment Heather. Yes, the sights these days really are sickening. What is sad is that men USE women like that and CHOOSE wives from women who AREN'T like that. The desire for attention and "love" should lead women to want to be honorable and worthy mates. Any man can catch a hooker. And any hooker can catch a morally bankrupt man. The two go hand in hand. The end is only YUCK (loneliness and disease) for both.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the Anne Rice letter comments. I hope she writes Morgan. Morgan has such a sweet heart.<BR/><BR/>Love in Him,<BR/>HeatherSprittibeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992769339576987845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13517164.post-1146318410485616102006-04-29T08:46:00.000-05:002006-04-29T08:46:00.000-05:00Oh I SO agree! Coming from one who used to "be on ...Oh I SO agree! Coming from one who used to "be on that pole", it HAS gotten so much worse. I am always amazed at what can be seen out there. And when I think it can't get any worse, it does. <BR/>I wondered a few weeks ago what half-naked women have to do with sports......seriously-the only had bikini bottoms on and had their arms crossed over their bare chests. It was sickening. <BR/><BR/>The letter from Morgan to Anne Rice was PRECIOUS! I hope she gets a reply from her!<BR/><BR/>Blessings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com